If there is a famous or infamous person or people whose notoriety or deeds you could erase from history, who would it be?

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Virginia Lou Profile
Virginia Lou answered

Dear Toxic Hairball,

I would like to nominate a disease, not a person; the Black Plague.

I have been studying history for clues as to why we are like we are, and in the 14th century there was no germ theory to help us understand. So in Europe one of three, by some accounts half the population succumbed, horrible deaths, and it seemed like the Wrath of God...the End of the World.

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Did that horrible disease impact our collective psyche into the present era? Would there be less shame, guilt, blame in our culture if our ancestors had not endured the Black Death?

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Virginia Lou
Virginia Lou commented
Zee, it is food for thought...will weigh, and see if more ideas emerge, ty. Discouraging about the MI complex though very much so discouraging.
Virginia Lou
Virginia Lou commented
Z overnight I do have more thoughts...good learning pondering for me but kinda feeling mildly a bit down about all this, so not wanting, not up to present them at least not now.

But wanted to mention how much I appreciate your nomination of the Pentateuch.
Call me Z
Call me Z commented
Hope you're feeling better soon. Its a pleasure chatting with you.
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Call me Z answered

I will pick whoever it was who actually wrote the Pentateuch. There is no measure of how much misery and cruelty resulted because of these writings.

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Didge Doo answered

Tomas de Torquemada! He wasn't the sole perpetrator of the Inquisition, of course, but his name lives on in infamy.

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Virginia Lou
Virginia Lou commented
Dozy...did you know the Department of the Inquisition is still extant? It just goes by another name now... but still charged with keeping the doctrines accurate... (This is my memory from 25 years ago, caveat I have not double-checked on it...)

Around 1990 I was reading the books of a WONDERFUL Catholic priest, Matthew Fox. So much so that I thought, "O wonderful, maybe I can join up with Catholicism now" (which I have always loved.)

Well, they zapped him! Disbarred Matthew Fox, put him under suspension or something. Thus ended my brush with Catholicism... maybe they are a little lighten up by now, I never checked into it after that.
But there are some wonderful rather unorthodox priests even now, I love Fr. Thos. Keating...but no more joining up thoughts for me...
Didge Doo
Didge Doo commented
I didn't know that. They're as mired in medieavalism as the Muslims.
I do know that a couple of years ago Bishop Scicluna of Malta lost his Vatican posting after comparing the RC cover up of child molestation to the Mafia's omerta.
Virginia Lou
Virginia Lou commented
Discouraging...but I suppose I am not surprised.
Tris Fray Potter Profile

I don't think I'd kill anyone.  Without them , the world wouldn't be like it is, and we wouldn't be able to learn from them.  Sure, what they did was completely wrong, but just imagine how different the world would be if they had never made it to power/been born/died before they could do anything.

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Toxic Hairball commented
Thanks, Tris.
We might wonder who's grandpa wouldn't have met their grandma if certain events hadnt happened. Note I worded the question carefully so as to only reflect the erasure of deeds, not lives or entire existence.
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Tris Fray Potter commented
Oh, sorry. I still don't think I'd change anything for the same reasons.

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